Age Is Just A Number

[00:00:00] How old is 2 older travel? Like is there a point that you guys are like, you're 75! You shouldn't be traveling no more sitting your rocker Okay, of course! Bimbener and Old Treps is served in North Harpard Castle. He's the best rhythm in Rome, which I've ever felt for now

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[00:00:53] We're like, let's listen to some more of them. Old Treps! I like, I like to say 55 or better. Or AARP recipients. Oh my goodness! When do you become too old to travel? Is it 75? Is it 80? 85?

[00:01:18] Is there a number where now it's like just cuddling loads sitting your rocker, you're too old to go anywhere, nobody wants you. Oh God, it just sounds like the end is near. It's hard! It is harsh! Isn't it even a thing?

[00:01:36] Does Aegee be manner when it comes to travel? Let's talk about your travel now. You're 55 and better. You know, a bat's key. I'm retired. Now that you're retired. Yes. And you're a golden age of, do we say your age? Can we say your age? Sure.

[00:01:52] I'm a little bit too. You'll be 72 this year. Yes, that's right. You traveled to England in September. Yeah. What was that like? No. I'm hearing. Like as far as, you know, packing and getting things together. Well, at the time of the year that we were going, right?

[00:02:13] Which was September. You were a September. And you know, you had to take hairs of clothes. Yes. The different clothing. Yep. She was wearing her shoes. Yeah, walking shoes. Right. You know, but the traveling was good. I didn't have any problem.

[00:02:31] I enjoyed the tours that I went on. Yeah. It was lovely. Yeah. But there's one place I need to go and that's Paris. Yeah. Yeah. Paris is on the list. And what are some other, what are some other, some other comforts that you would want?

[00:02:52] Waiting in those long lines. Yes. You know, I think they should have more help. What are some tips that you would recommend someone who is, who is, you know, in the 55-or-better club that wants to travel internationally?

[00:03:11] What are some things that you would say that they should do? Hmm. To travel. You have to have your wits about you and know exactly what airline you're going on. Right.

[00:03:27] Sometimes that airline you start from the front of the building, I mean, it's all the way down in the bottom. Hmm. You get a, you try to get a wheelchair. I know I could use a wheelchair most of the time. Yeah.

[00:03:41] So you can a lot of times you can order that ahead of time. So see, but sometimes you don't even get it. So I had to start walking. Yeah. With my carry on, by too. I mean, it was long. But you took your time and you got there.

[00:03:56] But that's where you allow for the extra time. Also, that's true. Yeah. You have to, so you definitely have to allow for the extra time. Yeah. Going through Heathrow, you're only allowed 100, 100 milliliters total.

[00:04:13] So if you have any items or you have anything, you have to make sure that if you're going to do, believe it or not, if you're going to do just a connecting flight or if you're

[00:04:27] having that as your stop or you're leaving from Heathrow, you can only have 100 milliliters like with. Yeah. So that's total. So if you're going to do anything, you're going to have to make sure whatever else you

[00:04:39] have, you have to check it or you're going to have to get rid of it. And just make sure when you're going through, you have that when you're going through Heathrow. Make sure you don't have any sharp work.

[00:04:47] It was a choice of something that was supposed to have been gone by now but it's still there. It's still there. It's a minecraft store. I think it's a money grab for them.

[00:04:57] So just make sure when you're doing your Heathrow if you can avoid it, try to do that if you're missed. If you're someone like me who has to carry all the accouturements on the make sure you have

[00:05:07] that and be put people paying to check your back and you need to. Yeah, make sure you carry a little too full. Yeah. So 200 milliliters total. So just so yeah. So yeah. I mean that was unexpected. So yeah. That was unexpected for me.

[00:05:24] So maybe just a little extra cash. Maybe to make sure that you're pretty cash. Oh yeah. You better have some cash. And what are some other things that you think that you probably need. Long distance, a long distance plan. Oh yes.

[00:05:38] That's probably something that you need to have. Access to internet if you're going to use it. Yeah, you are. For banking purposes. That's probably another. Yeah. That we probably will give you. You have access to internet or along distance carrier that's going to be able to give you

[00:05:55] long distance. So that you're able to let your loved ones know that you're safe and that you're arrived. But more importantly, if you're going to have to do any banking online or anything like that. Uploading a picture or anything like that.

[00:06:10] Yeah, it's probably a good idea that you have sometimes planned. If you're going to have that, a lot of the hotels and different things are going to have access to that. But make sure that is part of something that you do ask if you're trying to go tell.

[00:06:26] So. At this point when we talked about traveling with little kids and I know Paul, you had lots to say about that about you know infants and the toddlers and the school age and the teen age actors.

[00:06:38] And now we're talking about people that are older than us, I guess. Yeah. But how old like you know well first off. Let me just say this. What happened to respecting your elders? It's what I'll say it first. I mean, it's definitely a societal and cultural thing.

[00:06:57] And I would say that Americans are not of the country is not one of the ones that are like respect your elders. Like, um, well, I'm going to say it's not just Americans. It's, um, at least Europeans are kind of shabby with their elders here too as well.

[00:07:14] So maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you see more respect. Um, and Japan they actually have a respect for the age of people day, like a whole day to celebrate older people. But what does that mean for travel though?

[00:07:27] You, I respect them too when they're hanging out and just chilling. But when they're in my way. Oh, I mean, I mean, I mean, like, I didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean it like that. Oh, yeah. Hey, wow. But okay. But seriously, no think about it.

[00:07:44] So yes, I think we have to, I think we have to really have this description because Think about it when you're traveling. And I'm not saying, and I know we're going to talk about this topic as far as us traveling.

[00:07:57] And how we actually arrived to the topic was something that I brought up to the fact that when Traveling with my mom or with traveling because I am the only child.

[00:08:08] So I have this whole responsibility of, you know, as companion for my mother when I travel and, and, you know, being a caregiver when that time does come. And my mother is still fairly independent now, but you know, she has retired.

[00:08:22] So, you know, that is very much on the forefront and he can certainly travel on her own, but she chooses not to. She feels more comfortable if I travel with her.

[00:08:33] We know you don't have any trouble in wanting to travel, but when traveling do you, what is, do you have a fears about traveling? Do you have any, does it anything that makes everything has changed no? Yes. When I was younger, everything has changed now. Like what?

[00:08:53] And this, well, traveling, you know, you have to do this. Like what? What are some things that have changed? Well, the airline for one, you know, and you mean you get to the airport? You know, you have to know where to go. Right.

[00:09:18] You know, sometimes you don't know who to ask because the way to work is now it's carry. Right. Yeah. You know. And I have a little bit of fear of traveling by myself. Okay. So, traveling by yourself. You prefer that you do travel with someone.

[00:09:37] When I'm a single dude, yeah, solo travel is, is I will admit, is very daunting even for someone who is at elder. So, yeah, there's a lot of people that don't necessarily want to travel so I can only imagine that yes.

[00:09:49] And whenever I'm traveling, I want to go on a street flight. So once I leave and I land, I'm there. Right. Yes. You know. That means, for me that I may not be able to move freely as I would want to now. Right. So, you know, yeah, why?

[00:10:14] Yeah. So why I feel that what does that mean? What's that question? What are the limitations now? You know, for you as a companion. And now it's a thought process for ourselves because now we're like, oh, right. So what about when we get older?

[00:10:32] What does that mean for us for travel? Well, so I don't know. Let me just, yeah, I'm going to define a little bit more because obviously we're probably only focusing probably solely on airplane travel probably and maybe long, I don't know long distance.

[00:10:50] Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm thinking international and I think travel. With, yeah. I mean, I think domestically as well. But I mean, like we're not focusing just on airplane. We're focusing on traveling a car and all this other stuff and everything. And so everything.

[00:11:06] Roachips, it's everything, yeah. Yeah, but what does that require? You know, for me because I remember I used to actually. I love traveling with my mom back. She was not in no problem, you know, as she was aging and stuff like this.

[00:11:23] You know, my uncle who is getting up there in age to as well. He still travels a lot and I've traveled with him several times to as well. Believe it or not, he's more energetic than I am at times.

[00:11:37] So I don't know if it's a myth or or is something that we can debunk. Now, there are times where people are of age because you see them. I see it here in Paris. They're traveling in groups.

[00:11:51] They have a walker or they have some kind of support to help them to try to long. I've also in Trish, I'm sure you know, your experience with with your mom and stuff like that will talk a little bit more. But on my on my end.

[00:12:08] When I'm in the airport and I see, you know, our elders that are traveling first, you know, getting on the plane and so on.

[00:12:19] I actually am not bothered by it, but I do see the annoyance on people's face if they see a whole bunch of them on the same flight. Because that means that you're slowing me down or you're slowing this down.

[00:12:32] I do have an issue though with elders who are traveling in a car and don't stop yet. Don't stop yet. You mean, you need to know just always talking or needing to use the bathroom or something like this.

[00:12:51] And you mean that you're eating there at a passenger, meaning that you're driving or okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Well, I mean those those those are things that those are things that happen though when you were traveling with someone who is of a mature age because, you know,

[00:13:08] I'm not the one that used to be so you do you do have the plan for more frequent stops. It just is, it's like, well, I mean, I was going to say it's just like traveling with a child but that's just a little bit of a thing.

[00:13:21] Yes, it is. And what will be more beneficial is how do we cope with or how do we travel with our elders and make it obviously where you don't feel like it's a burden to you.

[00:13:35] You know, because I have friends of mine who have very, you know, like just been traveling with her father who's 88 years old and bound to a wheelchair kind of thing or a walker.

[00:13:48] But they travel overseas over the time but she comes back exhausted and she comes back feeling like she didn't enjoy the trip. It was all solely for him.

[00:13:59] That's okay to as well, but you also got to think about yourself and your stress level and all that other stuff.

[00:14:07] And I think the one of the first things that you have to consider when you're I think when you're taking a trip is okay there's different levels as well so it's mobility right so depending on if if that person is truly independent right or they are they are they independent enough as far as how they can get around.

[00:14:29] But even stepping further back when you're when you're doing that trip, you have to research of whether or not that country is available to that person right so are they going to be able to move around like for instance.

[00:14:41] When when initially when we were looking at a trip to going to Portugal my mother was supposed to go on that trip.

[00:14:48] But I did not look I didn't think you know because I think of my mother so independent because at the time she was still working she had not retired as of yet but she also had two knee surgeries.

[00:15:01] Although she recovered she recovered wonderfully in that two knee replacement she covered well she was walking around well, you know no problem.

[00:15:09] We took that trip she for for circumstances you know beyond her control she ended up not being able to go but after I went on the trip and came back thought of I was like my mother would not have been able to.

[00:15:20] Yeah, it's all hills right nothing but hills we would have been taking over she would have had to take Charlie's I mean it would have been extra steps so I totally should have done more research on that particular.

[00:15:33] But she would not have been able to get you know to and fro in Lisbon without some assistance so that's one of the things that you know definitely we need to look at.

[00:15:43] So I think you need to do you know some kind of like work initially you know for that and then also you have to be in the frame of mind that this trip is what do you mean by the record I'm sorry Trisho because obviously you're giving some good advice.

[00:15:56] But I just say what do you mean by that right.

[00:15:59] Yeah, just just the research because you know me I'm the research gal but the research in the fact that you know is this is this open to you know this age group right of this person and you really have to know your you know your.

[00:16:14] You know you're elderly person the limits of that person and what they can it cannot do and you know and really talk about the vacation because you need to ask about what what are some of the things that you would want to do.

[00:16:25] Like I remember you know having this discussion with my mother and telling her about this country and of course she was oh I want to do all of that I said but mom to get around there aren't this there is this you're going to have to walk you're going to have to you know trying to prepare you know trying to prepare her and say okay well if you're going to do this guess what you're going to have to get up and.

[00:16:43] You're going to have to get up every day you're going to have to try to walk every day and I need to to have the and to remember the importance of that time together.

[00:16:51] The fact that I have that time still with her right because there's so many people that don't. Yes and that and that I could pick one thing that I could do and then things that we could do together so that's how I try to approach.

[00:17:04] vacationing with her now so that I don't get stressed out because I didn't get to do what I wanted to do. So then yeah then then the follow up question because I feel like I'm interviewing you now. Yeah, I wanted it to go but that's.

[00:17:18] No, but you have more of the experience now because you know I lost my mom at a younger age so she you know I don't have that well experience like you would. I guess the other question then I would ask is when you're taking trips like that.

[00:17:36] Do you use it because I know when my you know like I said my mom pants when she was in her 70s but when you take trips do you.

[00:17:46] What is it better to classify the trip that it's for your your elderly parents so that way in your mind you're not focused on it's going to be something for me to have fun is just going to be a very relaxed trip for you.

[00:18:02] And it's just what what the parents want I don't I mean I don't like the way you're like it's not going to be something for me to have fun like I feel like I say fun I said like do you make it focus only solely on.

[00:18:14] I mean you literally just said because it's not going to be something for me to have fun it's going to be focused on them only.

[00:18:19] Well, yeah because they're not going to be able to go out to if you like bars because they're not going to be able to do that.

[00:18:26] Well, I know but it's not like you I also don't think you have to spend the entire vacation attached at the hip I mean that's it's I don't think it's a real.

[00:18:38] You'll chair bound or if they're what I know but like they might want to rest and then they're what I mean that's when you would go out.

[00:18:45] That's what I mean, yes that's exactly what I meant is that the avenue or that approach to do things is when there's a then I feel like you have the sneak out of that. I was a. I heard the dog so no.

[00:19:04] Yeah, you can leave them by themselves it's not like an issue. No, I mean like. You get where I'm coming from but like what are the planning you know I'd be curious and I know.

[00:19:16] Each year I try I guess I try to do something a little different but all my way there I really didn't think about it although I knew that we would be living in the jungle in the cabin. I really didn't think about it.

[00:19:31] The only I think when we arrived we flew into Liberia and we had to drive two hours to get to the jungle now that was kind of.

[00:19:43] I kind of thought about it, Trisha I really did I'm thinking whatever I got myself in to you know because two hours and I should have known and it was not. It was kind of primitive the rose with dirt rose, bumpy we and it's a raggedy van.

[00:19:59] It was it was very adventurous I enjoyed it but that ride from the airport to the jungle two hours I did not I did not expect for it to be that long.

[00:20:14] I was not going to be in the urban part of the I would do it again and I might would do zip lining because now I look back and think maybe I should have done zip lining but I was very happy with the horseback riding you have some fabulous vacations not just by row locally or domestically but you've also trucked internationally right.

[00:20:44] How do you all come about making those decisions to do that? What is it just dreams of yours that you wanted to come for there's organized decision on that.

[00:20:56] When David and I got married we made basically about each other that we would not wait until we retired to travel. We would travel we wanted to travel even it was just across the state line and we kept that promise you do you all feel.

[00:21:17] And like there's any barriers or there's any. Different than when you were younger.

[00:21:24] That's a good question too think I don't think I have a lot of fear that generation the boomers have the money and in fact I would those are the people that are traveling I mean to honest because they're they're free.

[00:21:40] There's just I mean there's so many articles and so many programs and comsenaires and you know luxury and.

[00:21:49] And so many organizations that are geared towards elderly travel now that it's it's and really is just because it's it's a boomer generation but now us is you know generation X you know where we are in our lives.

[00:22:07] And so we have a lot of things that we have in our homes now because home prices have just soared.

[00:22:14] Historically right now just you know just from where we were you know 10 years 10 years ago we can tap into we have so much equity right now in our homes that we can tap into.

[00:22:24] And we can just you know not just college education but for travel and we can in terms we can actually tap into our. Retirement if you will to take some of these trips.

[00:22:35] And so I think that the limitation that I would think of in my book would be what kind of limitations on traveling as an elder.

[00:22:42] Like for example, I could tell you Paris has lots of limitation for an older person like I commend an older older person because you have to really do your research for example because there's a lot of places if you're going to well number one.

[00:22:56] You may or may not be able to take the metro so you're going to have the drive it where or and park so that's going up and down all those stairs right because. Yeah, absolutely not elevate or everywhere. Yeah, a lot of elevators.

[00:23:10] Let's turn let's flip the script a little bit. Have you seen our you see an armature or elder or elderly lately because. They look better than you and I. Yeah, they look yeah they are fine. They are they are move it doesn't matter.

[00:23:29] But are they are more fit and more more put together. And a lot of our our. And miss and go really.

[00:23:38] Yeah, we did on that point about staying active that is something that's been doing for decades and continues to do which has enabled her to travel to places like Costa Rica and horseback ride and.

[00:23:50] River, river after do all those things in the middle of the damn jungle which you know a lot of people if you don't have the mobility it's not kind of happened.

[00:23:58] But I think that like the act of traveling and doing those things that you're unfamiliar with or maybe even just a little bit frustrating like I feel like that actually keeps us young.

[00:24:12] And at least like mentally you know because you have to like work through it and it's. It's not easy but like that's what keeps our brains like that neuro plasticity you know to get all sites.

[00:24:25] Yeah, yeah, like I mean because you go into like a new place there's an initial kind of like and anticipation but something. And somebody and something excitement and you know then some new experience happens that's weird and bizarre and we have to navigate it. Yeah, that's definitely.

[00:24:48] I hope I hope for myself that that's exactly what happens because I just have such a passion right now and I just could not conceivably see myself not being able to do that. Yeah, thank you all for watching Steve who's eminotropide cast Steve a play commentate.

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