Changing Identity While Traveling

[00:00:00] Alright, friends! Welcome back! So good to see you today! So today's topic is changing Identities while Traveling.

[00:00:43] I think today, though, I think we're gonna... I think this is gonna probably take the cake. Yeah. No, we'll have to see. No, Vanessa. Well, I could tell you that topic is just maybe. Well, well, so the reason I even thought about changing Identity while traveling is because

[00:01:01] I didn't interview with my friend Tim and he's Korean, ethnically Korean, a group in America. He said that he does that. He'll decide whether or not he wants to be seen as an American, depending on what country he's

[00:01:16] in or in Asian because it's one is preferred over the other, depending on which country you that you're in. And I thought to myself really, well, like, it just... It's not how it occurred to me that that was something that one could do.

[00:01:31] I mean, but yeah, there are countries where Americans just are not welcome. A lot of countries in the Middle East, specifically what did he say. In East Asia or the Philippines, for example, it's better to be American. Middle East Singapore or Thailand, it's better to be Asian.

[00:01:50] And this is his experience, of course, but I just found that fascinating because I was like, well, yeah, this is something we should talk about for sure. So I was just wondering, because then so many different places, and so many different things.

[00:02:05] So what is one of the craziest things that you saw that really like sticks in your memory as far as like culture shock or just something that you weren't expecting? You know, that answer it depends on what concept it is.

[00:02:18] All right, well, yeah, let's go and cut it by. Okay, so for both of the Middle East, I would say it's annoying, it's just takes getting used to because eventually I don't even hear it but it calls a prayer every day because

[00:02:32] they start that much early in the morning. It's only in the morning. So getting used to the culture prayer all the time, that was probably the first thing that I first observation living or being in a Muslim country.

[00:02:43] But that said that I really actually really like Middle East food and yeah, it's going to sound crazy because Iraq was during the war. It was not a pleasant time. It's going to sound funny but you don't know, I missed the food. You missed the food.

[00:02:59] The rest of the food that they made, it was so good and I really missed it. I liked it. I am partial to T and the chit version food but the call to prayer because I remember when I said that I thought it had this like ominous sound.

[00:03:15] Like, I don't know, it was it's like it's calming yet also unsettling for me. It was interesting. It almost sounded, it's almost like an Arabic version to me of like what a good Korean chant was not like, like a metacathic mass or something.

[00:03:31] So like I said, it wasn't, it was weird just getting used to that because it constantly in no matter where you are in public, you hear, you're in room and can't matter. You hear it all the time and it's just takes and it's five times today.

[00:03:44] So right, and did people that you were working with the Muslim faith did they get up and go pray? Yes, so they had their little prayer right there with them. They stashed behind their chair and the desk was something like that.

[00:03:56] But yes, they were pulled it out face mecca and as a UNP keeper during the dying doors, I was serving with a lot of different armies and so one time Bangladesh, being Muslim right. Yeah.

[00:04:07] We heard the Bangladesh, these guys were being engaged in combat and I'm not kidding you heard them. We were yelling at these guys trying to put you can control and we heard them praying in the middle of a fire fight. Wow, wow, wow.

[00:04:21] Wow, they were shooting well that yes, we heard them praying on the way. Yeah, it was great. You don't know the fight. Interesting. But okay. So yeah, what is this one that's diamond or is one?

[00:04:31] I, so the diamond, I mean they that there's a period that I was here. I went on deployment there from my O3 to 4. Yeah. Well first of all, my first comment I want to say is this discussion is about the pop off.

[00:04:45] So you definitely want to like comment and subscribe. So yes. Yeah. But I already have some issues with. Already. I don't know what the question is issues, but I got some comments. The second one is that right there is privilege.

[00:05:01] That's wonderful that he's you know, that he's able to have that ability to be able to humiliate like that because you know, some of us cannot do that. You know, a little dark or melanin certainly does not get you those privileges. So it's interesting.

[00:05:23] So that's that's initially what I was thinking. So I'm good. I know you got something to say. It's already on the same. I have to say, but I'm not afraid of framing. No, and I could be off totally on this topic, but just obviously the title got my

[00:05:39] pick my interest. And number two, it picked my interest of your friend Tim and just the fact, you know, you mentioned about being a community. Yeah. Okay, so I had to tell you the story about France. It was my first time in Paris.

[00:05:54] I was staying with a friend of mine that actually I met on a court call down a month when I was in North Sae. They said, hey, you know, any time, I gave them a tour at the Enterprise. Okay. And they said, hey, you live in Paris.

[00:06:05] Come visit us anytime. Don't stay with us. Nice. So I did that. Right? So I was a Paris and, you know, they had to go to work. So I just said here, they gave me some French Franks back then.

[00:06:16] They said, hey, just go and go explore in your own. So I was in downtown Paris and I was walking around and I tried to find a bookstore. I found one. It was kind of just a small little bookstore.

[00:06:25] And I went in to get an English French dictionary, okay? I went in there and I'm trying to explain to the guy, I'm looking for a dictionary. He didn't understand anybody goes. And then he ran out of his shop and went down the street.

[00:06:39] And I was like, no, it's good. It was a go. And he just left me a little bit of a shop. Okay. I took several minutes and I'm like, okay. So I just looked around. So he comes back several minutes later. I guess right?

[00:06:52] And he keep, but he had someone with him. Yeah. And he, in the next, eventually figured out, he ran down the street because he had a friend who speaks good English. Oh, okay. He went to get him to bring him through his store to transit. Oh, okay.

[00:07:05] And I was like, wow, that is not really nice. Even remotely, I had been, we just posed to think that French hate us. They really rude to Americans, right? Especially Parisians. Right. Right. So that's what I was expecting. But he really wanted this guy. No, he was back.

[00:07:21] And he was so incredibly nice and way out of his weight, even though he knew I was American. Yeah. So I was just, I was stunned by that. Now I wonder if the fact, I wonder if being Asian, that or maybe he didn't see me as

[00:07:39] a typical American. Maybe that's why. Because I will say that in all the places I've been around the world, I can sort of play both sides of the sense of it. So, Steve, where I can, if I can portray whichever one, like if one is more favorite

[00:07:54] one than the other, if I want them to see me as more Asian or American depending on the situation, I can play either one. Okay. And so they don't always, like it was especially when I'm traveling in Asia, believe

[00:08:07] that they're not actually want to be more American in most places. Oh. And so in the middle east, though, I want to be more Korean. Okay. I just, yeah. I portray a Korean that speaks really good English. Okay. So, all right. So there's many layers here.

[00:08:22] I think we need to try to dissect because there's a couple of different ways to look at it. So like, for example, my friend, Tim, who's Asian. Like if he's in a foreign country, when they see him, they are going to see an Asian person.

[00:08:37] They're not going to think American unless he starts speaking, right? So that, the different countries have different biases about other foreigners. So, for example, his experience, that's why he was questioning about being in Paris because we think there's, per regions have a certain way about Americans.

[00:09:01] But do they feel the same about Asians? And so because he looks Asian, and you know, an Asian person isn't going to go into an uphair shop and start speaking Chinese to them. No, they're going to speak English, the language they assume the per regions are going

[00:09:14] to know unless of course they know French. So I think he thought that shopkeeper was like, oh, this, I see an Asian person. They're Asian, not American. Right? So, right? I think that that's the first layer. Like what do we see?

[00:09:28] So, I mean, if you're a person of color and your darker and you're in Europe, the people see that are they going to think immediately that you're from Africa or they're going to think you're possibly American. I mean, I don't know.

[00:09:43] That's what we're discussing or someone like me who could be anything. I mean, I probably not going to pass for an origin. I mean, you know, people could think of, I mean, Italy. They're going to think of she's Italian. Yeah, Italian. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:10:02] I think they're going to think, you know, I mean. So let me try to take a, yeah, let me try and take a pinch of of this because this is actually a pretty good topic. And I, I slightly experienced situations like this, especially I have a thumbs up.

[00:10:17] I don't know how I got that, but I'm thumbs up on the top. He's going, he's going. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. So I can tell you, you know, slightly that from a person of color in case you have

[00:10:33] a realism black and being here in Europe, I do find that number one, I do notice the difference at least from one black person and I see another black person in, you know, in for example, France.

[00:10:47] And I can easily pick up the difference and say, OK, he's not British or he's not American because, you know, our skin tones and the way how our features are, they're a little bit different. And a lot of times there is a perception or something that's perceived.

[00:11:06] I know every time I'm here, if I don't open my mouth, I'm, I think I've got more people who thought I was from London from the UK, more so than America, which is interesting to me, being here in France.

[00:11:24] Now, you know, obviously if I go to maybe Germany or another country or something like that, it might not be the case, but I can say, you know, every time I'm there, I'm this.

[00:11:35] But I'm also curious to find out what does that mean when someone is traveling and they feel this way? Is there inherently a automatic bias? Like where people think that, yes, you know, it's a bad, I think there is.

[00:11:53] Yeah, I mean, to a store, yeah, if I go to a store, we all care it. Yeah, yeah, and it could be crazy because I mean, it's historical. It's, I mean, some of it is, is definitely cultural. It's been, it could be like from our parents.

[00:12:08] So it could be environmental or no social. Yeah, we carry different biases. And it may not even be thinking about them, but other countries do too. So yeah, I want to go to the point.

[00:12:21] Yeah, one of the things he said was that the question was, or I don't know if it was you or if it was Tim, was that, you know, if we can pass us someone, you know, from that was me. Yeah, yeah, we get a good question.

[00:12:36] Yeah, someone from the more preferred group in whatever country we're in is it better to do so? And I hate that quote. I like the question, but I hate that question because it responds we give because

[00:12:48] everybody's going to have a different response because I get it slightly makes me frustrated because why do we need to change ourselves? Why can't people just I'm traveling and treat me like a okay fine, treatment like a tourist and don't think that. In a perfect world. Money. Yeah.

[00:13:06] Right. And that bothers me because I do feel that way sometimes when I go to different places. And I either like, I went to Monaco one time and I, you know, with my friend, friend and I felt like I was not getting the attention I needed.

[00:13:21] Everybody passed me away and I thought it was he was he Caucasian? Was he a Caucasian or okay? I mean, I don't it was in Monaco so they're their own country but he was a high-end

[00:13:33] store and I was just like, well, how come I'm not getting service yet and I see two other people that come in and I don't know and I don't want to play that, you know, I'm not trying to play the black card people.

[00:13:46] I'm just saying it's, you know, and I don't think I need to prefer, you know, try to act like something that I'm not. And I wonder though is it because A you were black B because maybe they didn't think

[00:13:57] you were as wealthy or did they know that you were American? Like what are they thinking all of the above? I think it was all of the for all agree. So yeah, you had walked in as some sort of like, you know, African prints royalty

[00:14:09] with they have flowers too. Would come to you. All right. Well, but then when then they have dropped everything I mean, we don't know because you weren't with another wealthy black person.

[00:14:24] I mean, I feel and that's and that going back to your friend Tim whose Asian, I think I brought this up before I saw something of another podcast where someone who's from Nigeria,

[00:14:36] you know, if that same sense of okay, he was born in America but his when he goes to Nigeria and he goes to visit they don't accept him as the Nigerian even though his mom and dad are 100% Nigerian. They won't accept that. They're saying, oh, you're not Nigerian.

[00:14:53] Well, I mean, then what am I? You know, and well, and and I think, but I think that has more I think that has more work to do with fact that they may not have the same experiences of growing up, right?

[00:15:09] Because you know, he obviously had, you know, the better life's probably. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully living in a city. So how can he possibly relate more than the fact that he's not Nigerian but it's described as that?

[00:15:22] And I think I think that's what we do, you know, our initial biases is that we disguise, you know, we disguise those, those, those prepatcis and want to lump it all, you know, all into one thing. And it's not right.

[00:15:37] We categorize people as humans in order to make, we categorize the world in order to make sense of it. Yes. And that we do that because of what we see.

[00:15:47] And obviously a lot of it has to do with, you know, media and how we look at people when we go to different countries and travel in different places. Because I could tell you when I first moved overseas, even when I was living,

[00:16:01] you know, in in Korea or whatever, I obviously I was dressing like an American, you know? And, you know, now I live in Europe. I slightly don't have the same, you know, if I was from Texas, no offense, Trisha and I'm wearing cowboy boots and stranglers and cowboy.

[00:16:22] Because that's exactly what I'm wearing, triangular. Yes, it's very, very, very, very, very, very, very old. No, it's not. All the other things are going to be like, because they're tight. Okay.

[00:16:32] I said, when I leave there, I'm not going to come to France or Germany or Spain and dress that way. I think you're really trying to be in Berlin. No, you are in your identity. Okay, not you.

[00:16:44] But there are people that would, can they, or do you have the way they've dressed their entire lives? And I'll think I haven't seen it yet since I've been here or in your room. Why? What is wrong with wearing cowboy boots and a cowboy?

[00:16:55] That's what I want to know. Cowboys are not in the room with wearing that. I never said there was anything wrong with that. You, I said, the cowboy boots, stranglers, the biggest belt buckle, cowboy hat and walking down the street to go get yourself a baguette. And why?

[00:17:14] Because I live here. Why? Okay, so you are changing your identity. That's answering the question. That's why I said, but what would change our, when do we change our identity? And, and, and is it a good thing that we're doing that?

[00:17:29] Well, I think to, I think to a degree, I think, especially if you were, if you were somewhere and you're by yourself, like, is that if we don't have that national, that, that initial unit that we will try to do things to assimilate, right?

[00:17:41] Because we want to fit in. Right, safer. You got to think about it. It can't be safe. It's well. Right. You say. Oh, there's that aspect of it. The other aspect of it as well too is, you know, you want people to like you, right?

[00:17:56] You don't want people to think that you're different, right? So I don't want people to like, like a care less than they do. Oh, that is bullshit. You know what people don't walk around. Not you get mad when it's, Parisians don't do it. Like make you feel comfortable.

[00:18:11] But that's not like me. That's not a liking me. That's a respect thing. There's a difference between the two. Like respect. Whatever you're going to respect me, people want to be liked and want to be respected and want to be able to.

[00:18:27] I can call us if you like. Find their people. So the one that we're waiting to do on a make friend, right? I mean, if you do want people to like you so that you can make friends,

[00:18:36] you don't want to be isolated completely in a country that's not yours. Exactly. So it's, so that I think it's very different when you're, when you're traveling, or when you are, or your, your, the expat and you have to do those things,

[00:18:48] because you are going to assimilate, you know, some of the things that are, are with the country. But there's just some things that you can't do. I mean, you know, skin colors definitely one of them. I mean, if you think million back and forth, that's great.

[00:19:01] You know, we would call, you know, myself, Vanessa, and you know, we're passing although I can't pass anymore on the little darker these days. But, I mean, you know, that's what it used to be called, you know, back to the day.

[00:19:14] But, I mean, it's, I mean, I think very much we're in a world now where, where our differences are, are celebrated or at least trying to be celebrated, or we're trying to celebrate those things, but also being able to connect on, on our similarity.

[00:19:34] You made a fair point, Benef, and Patricia, on the fact of the dressing part because I was actually mad at my, one of my friends here before because we were talking about the politics and, you know,

[00:19:49] in France, they say regardless if you're born here or if you get a citizenship here, you're French, period. What does that definition mean? That mean to them when he was telling me this, that definition,

[00:20:06] basically mean if I came from Africa and I wear my normal African guard and everything like that, you shouldn't do that. You should dress and be French. And I'm like, well, that makes no sense because now you're telling me to get rid of my cultural identity

[00:20:22] and so on. So, yeah, switch to the French identity. Switch to the French identity, which I don't know what that really is. That mean you wear Louis Vuitton or something like this or whatever, but I'm just saying it's interesting

[00:20:36] that that was what they classify as French and changing identity. You know, the Olympics is here this year in France and one of the big controversy now is the person who supposed to be singing the French National Anthem and all this other stuff

[00:20:52] for the opening ceremony. Well, this year it's supposed to be a French, a black French lady. And the far right party or I don't want to get too political on this is basically saying,

[00:21:05] oh, she shouldn't be the one that's doing it because she's not French. I was like, she's born in France, she's everything French. Right. Oh, but it's so real for the world. It's all paid for the World Cup players right now. They're fine.

[00:21:20] But she's right. So it's basically because she don't look like what a typical French. Well, I mean, and I think I remember I told you that story about the ethnic Ukrainian woman who immigrated to Japan and became the first

[00:21:36] non non Japanese story of the National Anthem. The person to be mischipan and because the Japanese were like, but you're not Japanese. So what does that mean for us? Like, even though she, you know, went there when she was five, she speaks perfect Japanese. Like,

[00:21:54] she identifies as being Japanese and that's the difference. She identifies as being Japanese in the Japanese or like, but you don't look Japanese. So how can you possibly be Japanese? And education thing. That is not anything else. It's the education and education needs to be changed.

[00:22:12] Well, like it's also, I mean, so you're still looking at it from you're an American looking at it. And our country is very different with who we say is American. Other countries don't have that melting pot mentality where they accept everyone. So we can't

[00:22:27] be like, out Americans, you need to be more like us because we're right. But that's why I said don't you agree that it is an education situation because the world changes. But what are we like, how are you? You're educating to tell people, hey, French does not

[00:22:48] look like it used to way back when. Here's what French looks like now because that's well, that has to be, well, if you're talking about education and you're talking about that, then your systematically going to have to do the or start that from elementary school.

[00:23:03] That's fine. They're in school. Yeah. Yes. It doesn't happen. This is early to an adult. No, but the way it happens to an adult is obviously you do adult type content. Whereas in news where

[00:23:16] you change, I mean, I know America has went through it. You change up how your commercials are. You change up instead of the commercials being all white French people, it's going to be of people of color now because that's what French,

[00:23:29] French look like. And I know I'm only picking off France. It's only because I live here. But I'm talking about that for every other country in the world that's having this situation right now.

[00:23:38] So it's a completely back to its education. Well, it's a complete mindset shift. It's not just education because like I can educate me but I might not believe it. I might think you're full of shit.

[00:23:50] I mean, they've got to go into the mindset on what do you change the mindset? How do you change the mindset? To be, and for a country like Japan, we're Korea. They're very homogeneous, at least

[00:24:02] as far as Asians. There might be mixing between Asian races, but not a whole lot of mixing with other races and cultures. And so how do you tell them the homogeneous country that it's okay now

[00:24:15] for to accept Ukrainians as Japanese? How does it happen? I see it happened like for example going to the Netherlands. No one has an issue with it. No one says anything you know, good-battery and different. And you know the Netherlands specifically Amsterdam is very diverse.

[00:24:38] I mean bigger cities definitely tend to have more open minds or diverse. Yeah. Sure. But if you're dealing, you've got to be thinking about the entire country when you're changing mindsets and it's

[00:24:49] I can say it's hard. I don't know why. That's what I'm saying. Again, I'm sorry that I sound like a broken record. But in order to change mindset, even because this is important when you travel because

[00:25:01] we're telling people here's our experience on when we're traveling to wherever we go and all this other stuff we're changing the mindset. When we travel, we're trying to fit in like you say. I've

[00:25:15] adventureed out into East for example, you know, Poland or Lithuania or any of these other places. There's nobody really. I mean now there's starting to be a lot more, no more diversity there but they're changing their minds that they had to.

[00:25:31] They just can't just someone told them something. Someone is going to say, oh this person doesn't look like us. Why is that? It's because they see things on TV or whatever it is and they listen

[00:25:42] and then you know they get our music. They get our movies and all the other stuff. Regardless of how many times you put it in different languages. So traveling does help people change for certain. I mean change experiences. It gets you, it gets your immersed in those experiences

[00:25:59] that you would not have necessarily experienced. It opens people to the fact that again, I keep going back to this is that when we travel and we're able to relate to each other again

[00:26:11] on a very basic level. We are all humans. We all have more similarities and differences. And the propaganda that gets fed to us on a daily basis is what separates us. Travel, travel is never bad. Travel is never bad. Well and one thing I did,

[00:26:29] for now I'm sorry, I just wanted kind of circle back on something that Tim said. What you found actually very comical. And I'm pretty sure he said that. I think he touched on the whole shopping experience I guess that was about Americans. Not perception of Americans

[00:26:45] having money because we don't have gold. It's just not a cultural. We just don't do that. Because it's weird because it's not being rude. We consider being rude or disrespectful or something

[00:26:58] like this. I had gold, even in America I had gold. So we're not going to go into like a you know, a moral and a hate. In like a basis you're going to be like I want this should be a

[00:27:13] different like if I know that there's a string missing out of that damn shirt, I'm like hey look can you give me 20% off that that's just asking for a discount. That's not the same as haggling

[00:27:25] where they give you a price and you're like no I think this is the better price and then they give you a different price and then they give it. That's tagging. All right I want to get 80% right on that.

[00:27:36] All right okay my question was on that is that it was interesting that he brought up that point because I was thinking that you know what he was saying that the shopkeeper, the

[00:27:48] historian about the shopkeeper and how you know thinking that he was Asian and maybe not American or something else that he was you know planning over backwards. They perceived us and maybe

[00:27:58] I'm wrong in this with Americans but you know if they perceive America as having money why do you think that they wouldn't have bent backwards for why don't they bend backwards for Americans?

[00:28:09] Yeah. But I think look I think Tim has a very fascinating insight and story because he does obviously a lot of different things but I know when he travels somewhere you're they're not going to

[00:28:23] say you know oh he speaks English like I think Benette you were mentioning before they're going to say oh that Asian guy there he's probably not going to speak English same thing with me.

[00:28:33] Perhaps yeah you know they're going to look at me probably not they don't care if I speak English or not they probably going to look at me for other different reasons or whatever it may be so

[00:28:44] and it's just interesting man but in France they do stereotype if you kill a beard and all the other stuff you look like that what they call typical you're going to be profile. But I feel that we do that in the States too of course.

[00:29:07] I would I would I was expect you would get poll to decide to Benette because you do to an American I mean now your chameleon you can look like a lot of different things but

[00:29:19] Italian for a region but depending on how you dress you could easily fall into that category because you do look Middle Eastern. I haven't gotten it personally you do I ever pulled over

[00:29:31] aside for like in my at least I have if that's happened I haven't noticed it's usually because it's been like a random thing and it doesn't happen that often you want to know what I get so far

[00:29:43] I don't know what I mean so far I would baggy pants at the airport I get felt up just so you know that I can't wear baggy shirts I can't wear a baggy shirt I will still get felt up. I will get the extra

[00:29:55] wandage that's going on. We've been talking about traveling to other countries and past you know identity perceptions of identity but what about because in our own country that's that's the different states like do we get that do has anyone experienced that like I'm

[00:30:12] a group in well I'm Michigan. Meaning changing your identity to fit in? That or just um them thinking you're something else not a mirror no I mean no as a black man

[00:30:26] I get one damn thing and we all know what it is it's color exactly and and it's so pretty weird. One damn thing and then yeah and then the next thing I get the same thing I get color

[00:30:40] I also get well you're very articulate if that is not the most racist thing you could tell somebody that whose black is that they're all check articulate what do you mean?

[00:30:49] I mean I've only got that you mean because I can because I'm not have a connect you or like I'm like I don't have I'm not talking slang to you I do that too.

[00:30:57] To honestly it doesn't even matter like how I sound or or how I act or whatever like that the bottom line is is before you even open them out what they see is what they see what you yeah

[00:31:10] what they know at the first layer and the first layer you will you don't even have to speak because you're not getting past the first layer right and if I'm going to like and I don't mean like

[00:31:23] okay you'll get through the first layer if you're going to New York to LA Atlanta you're definitely going through the first layer and you're gonna pass it but you go to like Montana Nebraska and

[00:31:34] all these other places I'm sorry you know you're probably gonna get a little bit more lower in Nebraska I didn't say oh my heart is different oh no no oh my heart is very

[00:31:48] diverse it's live but you get where I'm coming from my point is is the state's that DC if I've traveled DC I don't have to worry about it but you travel to some of these other smaller places

[00:32:03] Idaho and all these other places you're probably gonna at the start but I don't know I haven't started having to visit it all the states so I can't honestly well I visited in 1946

[00:32:14] in what is there to see in Idaho what would there be for a diverse you know group of people like if you know but if we were to show to Idaho where would we be able to hang out

[00:32:28] Boisey I'm interested to see in the comments where that's at so I'm I was thinking that what we would you know what if you're talking about the US definitely number one it's gonna be

[00:32:40] right we talked about that we you know that's that's kind of gonna be the thing and then it's the next thing is when you open your mouth you know I I really do do things well then I think

[00:32:49] when we open our mouth and it's like oh you're American because I don't even know if we can pass as any other group to be honest we're pretty isolated I think then I think then the moral of

[00:32:59] this story is of even though it started up a little bit on the hot side with me kind of thing is is do we end up changing to fit yeah do we end up changing to fit to where we're going to be

[00:33:12] to an extent yes after talk I can agree with that you because I've lived in different places love out all over the place too as well and I I'm thinking back and I do yes I do do things

[00:33:27] if I'm going somewhere I'm gonna dress appropriately for that place that I'm going or do something that doesn't make me stand out like the crazy American or whatever it is and stuff like that so

[00:33:38] I think that's the moral is you do but you don't shy away from who you are where you don't want nobody to know you're from where you're from and all this other stuff unless it's gonna

[00:33:50] be something that you're in a you're traveling somewhere that's dangerous that it's not good to tell where you're from which we've done that way so I think that's it that we're going to wrap this up

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