Different Countries, Different Beauty Standards

[00:00:00] and welcome back to another edition of Rhythm and Roam. I'm your host, Paul, and I'm with my two

[00:00:16] co-hosts, the Nef and Trish, how's it going out there? So as you guys already know, the little

[00:00:22] disclaimer, you know, where this is the podcast where we start to discuss our travel

[00:00:29] adventures and explore and cultural differences in every single thing that's in between.

[00:00:37] So today, episode is a quite interesting one. We're talking about different countries

[00:00:43] and different beauty standards. I know that's a weird mouthful, but I think this is going

[00:00:51] to be something that a lot of folks listening is going to be able to relate to probably

[00:00:58] as stuff like that. So let's just kick it off. What are we going to do?

[00:01:03] Why don't you tell us why you came up, how you even came up with this topic? Because I'm not,

[00:01:07] I don't know if you're traveling to different countries and noticing the beauty standards

[00:01:11] or being treated differently as a man. I was sad to see you. So this is why, and I'm glad

[00:01:18] you threw it back to me because I didn't want to make it seem like I was trying to make it,

[00:01:21] oh, it's only women and it's not men or whatever. The topic actually did not come to me specifically,

[00:01:29] like I didn't think of it at first, but a good friend of mine who I went to grad school with

[00:01:34] Lena, who is also American. I had the pleasure of interviewing her to as well as she popped

[00:01:41] this into my head because she said that this was something that interests her and was also concerning

[00:01:47] of the fact that the beauty standard, when I say beauty standard, we're talking about

[00:01:55] when it comes to sometimes weight. Standards are not the same in specifically Europe,

[00:02:03] then it is in America for example. And I can attest to that living here in Europe and just

[00:02:11] write out my door is the elevator and you guys know from traveling to Europe. How tiny,

[00:02:20] those elevators that are put into these very, very old art. They expect multiple people to,

[00:02:28] I'm like this elevator is for one person. Exactly. Maybe two, but damn you're in the fair.

[00:02:33] Yes, not including your suitcase. That's not including your suitcase. Seriously. I mean,

[00:02:38] I'm not like a large frame person, but I just don't want that people that close to me. I don't

[00:02:43] know that's like a space issue. It's all of that in a bag of chips. Everything you just said

[00:02:51] and people tend to not have a problem with it. And when Lena, we had a great conversation when

[00:03:00] she mentioned this and it proved my attention in my interest because I'm like yeah, that is

[00:03:06] breaking true. And it's not just elevators just an easier part of it. It's the same thing if you're

[00:03:12] going to a restaurant, for example. Like all the tables of so close and small chairs and

[00:03:20] they expect you to squeeze into a certain spot. And I'm always like, God dang, I'm skinny and

[00:03:27] I could barely fit in here. You know, kind of thing. So that was a concern of her and stuff like this

[00:03:33] to as well. And we talked extensively about this and some of the things that she had to deal with.

[00:03:44] I know I worked in the high-end fashion industry.

[00:03:52] What's up? Well, you know, I already knew because of my weight and my size and all of that.

[00:04:02] Even beyond that, even when I was smaller, just my body shapes into general because I am very

[00:04:08] five-metre and it doesn't matter what my weight or size is. I've always been curvy.

[00:04:16] This is the access to certain things that they just weren't there. And so, you know, whether it was

[00:04:23] the cut, you know, the and down or whatever, there just wasn't the availability of some

[00:04:30] of those things to me. So I already had it in my mind whether it's, you know, new to time or

[00:04:35] beauty or, you know, Chanel, whatever. I probably would not be able to wear it.

[00:04:42] What country is so just for a little bit of clarification? What country specifically are you

[00:04:50] talking about in the US and knowing that all of these brands were from France, you know,

[00:04:59] in general, it already had put in my mind that, okay, when I go there, I'm not going to be able to wear anything.

[00:05:10] And going there, I, when I went there, I had two bags, I stayed there for a week.

[00:05:17] What countries? I went to Belgium, France and, oh my gosh, it's failing me.

[00:05:27] Right to slava.

[00:05:30] Yeah, yeah.

[00:05:31] Yeah. So, um, yeah. So I kind of, you know, I packed because I knew, I was like, I'm not going to be able to buy

[00:05:39] clothes. I don't know whether it's, you know, like, let me make sure I bring some layered stuff and,

[00:05:46] you know, I just had a variety of things because I knew of, I felt that I wasn't going to be able

[00:05:52] to find anything, especially in Paris. I was going to fit mine, my body. Like, I knew that I wanted

[00:05:59] to get back and stuff like that. But like I said, just the clothes, even when I went into a

[00:06:05] little time store, I went straight to the handbags and the handbag, I didn't go to the

[00:06:12] things because again, even with the things. That's interesting. Yeah, very narrow. I've wifey,

[00:06:18] so I was like, that's not going to work for me. So I'll stick with the handbags and wallet

[00:06:24] and maybe through luggage. Was there any moment you felt uncomfortable period just because

[00:06:32] other than the highest. Of course, you know, traveling to Belgium and I can't always pronounce

[00:06:41] the name. Brought to slava, yeah. Yeah, traveling to both of those places, I was like,

[00:06:47] I'm probably going to be the only one person here. And so there's already this mindset

[00:06:55] like the shift in your mindset that you have to prepare for because if people who are in a

[00:07:01] situation where they've never left America for example, and it want to visit Europe, is there anything?

[00:07:08] I don't want to call it these adults. But is there anything that you want to get out there that

[00:07:14] you want people to know? And they feel like they're in the same situation that you felt,

[00:07:20] you know, where you think weight might have been an issue and you didn't want to buy anything

[00:07:24] because you don't want people to look at your certain way at high-end stores or wherever you

[00:07:28] want it to go kind of thing. What would you say or suggest or recommend to folks up there who's

[00:07:35] thinking that same way? Well, so you know I have this saying, do it a phrase. So even if you

[00:07:45] are... It's a nice of you. I like that. You're scared or whatever. Like you just do it anyway.

[00:07:52] You know, I'm a person that runs two-fear. I don't want a way from it. And so again, my advice is to

[00:08:01] do it a bit. Amen. So. How? What do you guys think? Well, I definitely

[00:08:15] can identify, certainly. Having challenged your vibe, I've certainly had those same types of

[00:08:25] quams and you know, but worrying about where I would fit. You know, and having gone several times

[00:08:31] on... I've lost quite a bit of weight recently and just personal choice of myself wanting to

[00:08:39] be to be smaller myself. But having been in a civil situation in this particular incident

[00:08:45] happened in England was it in England now that it was in France? No, it's actually in France.

[00:08:52] Yes, absolutely. I was... And I'm trying to remember what part where we were and I can't

[00:08:58] remember at this moment. I think we're painting it a restaurant. But I don't remember what part where

[00:09:03] we were but we had just finished eating or just touring somewhere and we went to eat lunch.

[00:09:07] And I remember going into a restaurant and then I you know, I think I had, you know, excuse myself

[00:09:13] in the table and now going into the restaurant. And when I opened up the restaurant, I could not

[00:09:22] believe. I thought I had made a mistake. I thought maybe I had gone into... It was a closet.

[00:09:26] Like a closet? Because initially, first of all, I could find the light switch because you know,

[00:09:34] so that's why I thought it was a closet because I already I could see that it was small.

[00:09:40] But when I opened it up, you know, I just happened to fumble through and I loved and no,

[00:09:46] it was the toilet was literally like right. I mean as soon as I stepped, it was right there,

[00:09:53] like right at the door. The sink was one of those design work kind of turned to the side. So

[00:10:01] you could, you know, they're trying to maximize space obviously. But it was right where the toilet was.

[00:10:06] So the distance was probably just, you know, just right. It was for those who were listening

[00:10:14] is right close. I mean it was right there. So there was really no difference. Maybe three inches.

[00:10:20] Maybe I don't know anything about distance. But let's just say with me being, you know,

[00:10:25] the bigger world that I am, it was close. And now remember, I have to get in. Okay,

[00:10:33] I'm going to sit out on this on the toilet and I'm going to close the door. So,

[00:10:39] and then I'm expected to pull my pants down. I'm supposed to do this in like an airline lab.

[00:10:45] Yeah, it's definitely the same in that. And so there's like two different things that we're

[00:10:50] discussing. I think is is the just the issue of personal space that is different in Europe and in Asia

[00:10:56] than it is in America where everything is bigger and we just have a lot of space to just

[00:11:01] while we get out. Yeah, things wire things a lot bigger is another question on that.

[00:11:06] We actually just have more space. Wait, wait, do you have more space?

[00:11:10] There's more space in other countries too as well. You know what I mean? Okay, Russia, China,

[00:11:15] yeah. Canada, Canada. Yeah, yeah, it was a bigger Canada. Yeah, I agree. But also, but also,

[00:11:22] I mean, honestly, there's so reason to make these spaces that small though, right? And so why not

[00:11:29] come up with these new architectural ways and start combating that now? I guess, you know,

[00:11:34] here's my question. It's like people go to France and they're going to see these like ancient

[00:11:40] French things, right? Yes. I don't know that their necessarily building things or re-furbishing

[00:11:47] things to attract tourists. It's not like Dubai where they are building things to attract

[00:11:53] Westerners to go. So they have no that people are going to come up with. There's only

[00:11:57] going to be so big. People will go there for that. I mean, but like in Asia, the people are just

[00:12:05] smaller. So are they making clothes for tourists or they making clothes for Japanese people or

[00:12:11] Koreans? Japanese Japanese Japanese. Yeah, I can't like in Japan it was really hard to find stuff

[00:12:17] that fit because my arms and legs were longer. And I just have broader shoulders, but in Korea,

[00:12:23] the Koreans are bigger. And so I was able to find clothes that fit, but I still struck out on shoes.

[00:12:31] Well, I can't remember if you answered your question, do a bit of day specifically Japan

[00:12:39] and probably other countries who as well don't look at it for tourism. France. And the

[00:12:44] cause I'm so excited. Yeah, France doesn't look at it as tourists. Other European countries,

[00:12:50] I would say Germany because they want the tourism and stuff like they would probably cater to

[00:12:59] probably bigger people and Scandinavian Stockholm, people are very tall and never-lands.

[00:13:07] Everyone is saying that these places are to visit. So you come and visit, you do even

[00:13:12] you fit, you're comfortable for a bit and you go home. So I give you another example.

[00:13:16] I'll give you another example. In the Netherlands, for example, Amsterdam, the Dutch are extremely

[00:13:23] tall people. For some reason their apartments are not tall enough for them. Like, I've been

[00:13:30] the people's apartment who this dude is like- And the stairs are like so narrow. Yeah. And

[00:13:37] the guy is like six foot five and he's hunched over to try to get into it. You know, the buildings are

[00:13:43] old there too as well. Okay. Yeah. And there's a lot of them there. And they always been that tall

[00:13:52] or is it like because of like- I think Dutch people have always been a very nice way back when.

[00:13:56] It's like, bike in time? Maybe they weren't. Yeah. Yeah. But that's it. So he's not a water

[00:14:03] but they have a lot of water. It is known how to check out. No, in Amsterdam, there's not much

[00:14:08] modern. It's just like- Well that an Amsterdam proper. No. I want to, I'm only specifically

[00:14:14] was talking more about Amsterdam because it's one of their highest travel destination places

[00:14:21] and the buildings are old and I don't have to answer also the next question. I don't know

[00:14:27] when Dutch became tall but they're freaking tall. And I can tell you the homes are so old that

[00:14:35] doesn't work well. Well, I mean the other thing too is like if I'm traveling to, you know,

[00:14:43] India, Japan, you know, Germany. Like I'm not trying to fit in with their beauty standards because

[00:14:48] I'm American. I could give two folks about what they think is pretty over there. Can you to find

[00:14:52] a little bit on the beauty standard part because I think it's a little generic. Like when you

[00:14:57] say beauty standard, what are you specifically talking about? So it's basically like what that

[00:15:03] society with that culture perceives as beautiful for men and for them. And it is different depending

[00:15:09] on what country you're in obviously. It's a weight that includes beauty things. Yeah. So

[00:15:16] beauty is to get a very high like the the the the Korean beauty standard for a woman and for a

[00:15:22] man. It's basically what you see with the K-pop stars. Like if you don't fit that standard then

[00:15:28] you're not going to make it as a K-pop and it's hard to like. So looking like a doll baby.

[00:15:33] K-o. Sorry. And and I remember actually one of my roommates at West Point

[00:15:41] is was is Korean and she said I I forget what we had been talking about but like it was a flight

[00:15:47] attendant for Korean air or one of the Korean airlines and she was like oh well if she's the flight

[00:15:52] attendant you know she's beautiful because like you can't be a flight attendant unless you're beautiful

[00:15:58] in Korea. And the definition of beauty is again. Is there standard whatever it is? And so yeah

[00:16:05] we don't have that in America because that would be discrimination. We did. We did. Well we did.

[00:16:12] We absolutely do you understand me some of those where it was like you said is the flight attendant. Yes.

[00:16:17] Yeah you had to be single. Oh yes. I think I'm gonna go off the coffin and again say

[00:16:26] we are kind of in our American cultural thinking saying absolutely. Please don't yell at me on this.

[00:16:34] But because we're big people people need to cater to us. I feel like that's what we're saying

[00:16:41] where we go anywhere. I mean I think that we think that anyway we go we go with that mentality a

[00:16:48] lot initially and then initially. Yeah you have a good way. You have silly do because we're like why

[00:16:54] is everything so goddamn small? I do it all the time and I live here. I do it all the time

[00:17:01] and I live here every day I get to about the elevator. We don't want to be that close to people like

[00:17:08] that's so comfortable. Yeah. I mean it's just a elbow room man too. But why do they need to

[00:17:16] change their standard because of us? Because that's what we're used to more fucking room. That's

[00:17:21] just it. We're just used to more okay Mrs. Eric and I'm American. No it is true. I'm not right. I mean

[00:17:30] oh I bet you's difficult for them how to handle like for example Trisha your hair or

[00:17:36] another person of color hair. It wouldn't be because I know I would look for people that had

[00:17:41] had had training abroad like in London or you know I've been somewhere else not just

[00:17:48] it was definitely tough for a lot of and this was something Leninga had also mentioned to

[00:17:54] as well which I wanted to get to was hair you know and I saw that struggle with you know

[00:18:03] like women for example in Korea. Hell I struggled but not as much as they did because at the time

[00:18:11] I did have hair and I had a feed and I said it's tough but the good thing with me is that there was

[00:18:18] a lot of Americans knew how to do a black dress. However but for that woman that need you know

[00:18:25] whatever products you guys put in your hair and stuff like this of color it was so cool. I remember

[00:18:32] it's like just trying to get a decent blowout I went to it and it was in Nevada salon in a mall so

[00:18:37] I thought this would be perfect but like the minute she bought out the blow dryer and started just like

[00:18:43] doing all this and I was like it was gonna be like a horse I need like a bottle of cereal

[00:18:55] I was like my eyes were like yeah why don't you try it?

[00:19:02] Why when when we travel you'll see and that's you know that's kind of the other thing you know

[00:19:09] when you see a you know American or black woman travel you will see a protective hairstyle because

[00:19:19] the weather you know first of all you know it was easy to handle but it's more definitely it's more easier

[00:19:25] to handle will have a protective hairstyle you'll see brand you'll see locks you'll see something you'll

[00:19:30] you'll see cornrows you'll see them because we don't have to worry about you know we don't

[00:19:34] have to worry about our hair so that's kind of the thing spot on on on that and another another

[00:19:43] thing that is a note that interests me too is because I didn't even think about this is you know

[00:19:52] going to European high-end design stuff you know that was something also

[00:19:57] I didn't even think about this you know maybe because I'm a man but you know

[00:20:05] those high-end stores she felt that there was a little needed that is that there was no

[00:20:11] reason for her to go there because they weren't gonna have her size for example

[00:20:16] they are entering to the the model and why yeah we know that we know that we know that

[00:20:23] from America but we don't know why we don't know why we do know why we do know why

[00:20:34] it's annoying because of the fact that it's on fake it's on fake

[00:20:39] they don't see us in their clothes they don't see us as a vision in their clothes

[00:20:44] they have a glass of fire the lunch was unless yes they do not do they do not

[00:20:50] their clothes do not fit the lunch was women and traditionally black women have hips they have abs

[00:20:57] they have titties they have curves so therefore we do not fit into their

[00:21:03] genre but let me just be controversial for a second a lot of people who didn't have

[00:21:09] ass and hips and all that are buying them now Kim Kardashian um so you would think that they will

[00:21:17] start to be making more career they don't have to know one I don't know I feel like those are

[00:21:23] things that mentality is so entrenched at the time when they told we've been on a change

[00:21:31] old could you then it's like half that shit they're wearing is like looks ridiculous and isn't

[00:21:36] you would think but here's the other point of that though it also has to do with um

[00:21:42] pedigree right it has to do with those who can't afford it so if they were to if they were to change

[00:21:48] the mentality or to change the mind the the mind and they would have to let they've had to be

[00:21:52] inclusive of all and inclusive means letting all in so there still has to be some type of

[00:21:58] its exclus exclusivity to that right there has to still be some type of um misty to it so

[00:22:06] instead of them having to change you have to change to be able to fit into it but I think that

[00:22:12] I think that they are adjusting meaning because I just mentioned earlier Louis Vuitton for example

[00:22:19] or as the French say we don't know we don't we don't so um they changing because

[00:22:27] what's his name for Rale Williams is the artistic director or whatever it is

[00:22:33] so he has the mindset that they need to make stuff now that are for uh women with curvy figure

[00:22:42] not necessarily black women but just women with curvy figures and they have been bringing out a lot

[00:22:48] more of those and they have been making baggier or bigger clothing but that's the style now so the

[00:22:54] question is when that style is over yeah does it go back to well I mean Trisha you said I mean what you said

[00:23:02] was very interesting about like you have to change and I think that is the problem with the beauty

[00:23:07] culture in general is that there's always something that we're trying to attain and reach but it

[00:23:13] means we have to change who we are and I feel like it's at least there's more um more emphasis

[00:23:22] more we see more diversity we see different types of women and we see that it's okay to be who

[00:23:28] you are there's a lot of um like advocacy for that but there's still that still that part there

[00:23:35] we're you know I feel like I feel like they have but I feel like they have catered a little bit

[00:23:41] in the change department not enough but I think that and we're just talking to hands of right now

[00:23:47] they have not even begun to they have not even begun to scratch the surface honestly um it's kind

[00:23:57] of interesting because I my scratch we kind of we kind of we kind of touched on this actually

[00:24:06] in my classes in my marketing class so we actually said a little bit about the dove campaign

[00:24:12] that they did yeah I remember about the you know the women campaign huge and I'm heading

[00:24:18] still to this day I mean that's you know one of their mission and they're saying good case he goes back

[00:24:23] yeah it's a very good case if you haven't looked I have all the links to that um you need

[00:24:27] and if we you know we can post it if we want to part of this so we can see this because I actually

[00:24:32] think it's quite poignant to look at that um the big thing is you know as women in general or you

[00:24:39] know people in general the way we look at ourselves the fact is we're not comfortable with who we are

[00:24:46] in general just how we even describe ourselves like if we that that was so powerful to me

[00:24:55] that commercial that they did of us describing ourselves to someone else and then because he's

[00:25:02] working on society tells us what is comfortable and what just no but just in general how we

[00:25:07] describe ourselves to others then have that person come back and describe us who different things

[00:25:15] we focus on all the negative and the other person focus on all the positive yes because they don't

[00:25:22] want to put you down that's well and I retot to focus on the negative or we taught to be humble to the

[00:25:27] point that we're detrimental to ourselves and both and you know and then and our we are we the

[00:25:36] you know are we taught to you know to our own horn when no one else does and you know all those

[00:25:42] wonderful things that we're supposed to do so how are we supposed to be able to advocate for ourselves

[00:25:47] you know I don't know I think that's what I'm saying I think we are I think we are making small

[00:25:56] adjustments I mean like the adjustment the adjustment like well no no no the reason why say that

[00:26:02] it because remember back in the 90s early 2000s or even later we didn't have plus size models

[00:26:09] we didn't have people spokespeople to wear stuff or for the woman that look like other

[00:26:18] than a skinny toothpick you know kind of thing so I'm just trying to be fair to say there have been

[00:26:26] is just that it's just that they're not catering to the speed that we want because and I know

[00:26:37] at sorry my French peeps the French people could be just feeling very direct and cold and honest

[00:26:43] and there's nothing wrong with that it's just that in the direct honesty it's more of it's your fault

[00:26:50] you figure out how to you know get to the where you need to be to do this or leave

[00:26:56] and go somewhere else that's the mentality how it is I'm not saying that they say that I'm just

[00:27:01] saying that is what it seems the mentality is and everybody seems to be okay and fine with that

[00:27:07] so I think this brings it back to Linida's point you know on the fact that you know they're not

[00:27:16] they your is not going to change how they do business and stuff like this because of in their mind

[00:27:22] it worked and it's been working and people are still buying our shit so take it or leave it

[00:27:28] right exactly yeah so we're going to come back to you're we're still going to visit Ferris

[00:27:34] yeah yeah exactly that's my point you're not going to boycott Ferris

[00:27:39] right because they have a small elevator you're not going to boycott you know

[00:27:44] they're so good in that building I'm going to comment on it though David yeah I'm going to

[00:27:49] bitch about it all damn it I'm still kind of busy with my dancing as well yeah like look I'm

[00:27:55] I think this case by itself you know what's funny about it I'm just going to say that but now

[00:28:01] I'm going to send my suitcase up first damn it banana you came to visit me and you had a suitcase with you

[00:28:07] you saw those suitcase and me and you could not fit in that bag I had like an actual not a

[00:28:13] carry on size it would have been challenging that's my point I had people that came to visit me

[00:28:19] that had big old suitcases and we had to make several trips and I knew on the top floor we had

[00:28:24] to make several trips up and down and it was just annoying as hell and that's why warned people

[00:28:31] do not bring a big ass suitcase because you're going to drop off the metro and steps

[00:28:37] that was horrible yeah carrying it on the metro for yes it is a worse feeling everyone I see

[00:28:43] people with these big old suitcase I'm like you poor America well so like the camp has the

[00:28:48] it's like shipping company you know they'll ship your suitcase from your house to their airport

[00:28:53] because they don't want to deal with it yeah traveling I'm sure that they have stuff like that here

[00:28:57] and so on but it's just the fact that we have to do that and then they're making

[00:29:03] plain seats smaller now that is so the Japanese the Asian airlines there's less clearance

[00:29:10] from this one seat to the next because they're legs are shorter and so for people with legs I'm like

[00:29:15] why are my knees touching it like that never happened and I'm like right there and I'm like this

[00:29:19] is really uncomfortable and you have short of steamers and that's what I think what's one is

[00:29:26] so I know not to ride that one well there was Asian I think it was Asian Asian I've taken

[00:29:32] Asian I'm not right not one yeah yeah but like to pan airlines, Korean airlines I'm going United

[00:29:39] man yeah there's one you're getting smaller yeah well we're supposed to be able to take business

[00:29:49] class yeah it's all about that for the yeah for that far yeah okay so since we were talking

[00:29:57] about what hair products and skin products and things like that I do want to actually mention

[00:30:04] I know right I actually do want to mention a product that I have been using I want to bring that to

[00:30:12] your attention joy has a wonderful clinic there in Huntington and she has also started her

[00:30:19] skin care line and she was so gracious to send me some products to use and I have I have started

[00:30:25] using them I have actually now this is my third week using her product and I absolutely love it

[00:30:34] love it love it you're skin but as you can see yeah I just wanted to give a little plug for the joy

[00:30:41] joy boy wow yeah joy congrats to her so I have what's here is the essential bio botanical

[00:30:50] which is the face elixir and what's really neat about this is that this is actually the one ounce

[00:30:56] one fluid ounce that I put on and with the products all you have to do

[00:31:02] you just have to put I mean I'm talking like these smallest amount you wet you just wet your hand

[00:31:06] a little bit and you squirt a little bit of this and then I also use in conjunction with the

[00:31:12] serum and these are so well it's just from the very very nice yeah so good so I use this in

[00:31:19] a conjunction I do this at night both of those okay these at night and then just one at a day

[00:31:25] please you both just one time I do I do it at night both of the morning and night

[00:31:30] and it is it is just such a wonderful product so I just wanted to put it out there I also want to

[00:31:35] all enough to travel with so put put her link in the in the channel so that myself and

[00:31:42] the girls in love can enjoy this is also definitely okay and we'll start a QVC show next

[00:31:52] we need to our merch is next right okay yeah so this was the interesting great topic

[00:32:01] I thought we had some really good discussions and stuff like that so

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