Origin Stories
Rhythm & Roam with Benefsheh, Paul, & TreciaApril 24, 2024
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Origin Stories

Benef, Paul, and Trecia share their Super Traveler Origin Stories. These first trips made them fall in love with travel and learn essential life lessons. This is one not to miss; it’ll have you gasping and laughing out loud. No seriously!

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[00:00:12] Hey everyone and welcome back to another edition of Rhythm & Roam with Benef, myself, Paul,

[00:00:19] and Trecia where we talk about and discuss our travel adventures and explore cultural differences,

[00:00:25] similarities, misconceptions and all those craziness that falls in between. Okay we're going to change

[00:00:32] it up a little bit today you know you guys have seen a couple of episodes of us already and this

[00:00:38] time we're wanting to do kind of like more of an origin you know it's been few episodes like I said

[00:00:46] and this origin story is going to be about us where you know we each have a travel experience

[00:00:52] that has made us fall in love with traveling and exploring so today we're sharing our travel origin

[00:01:00] stories you know the things that made us more savvy want to explore the world a bit more

[00:01:06] and have you know more adventures so I don't know who's going to start but I'm just going to pick

[00:01:12] somebody to just start this adventurous and kind of give a little bit more of you know your

[00:01:18] travel experience and I'm gonna go around what makes more sense I don't know because both we all

[00:01:25] have great stories so Benef why don't you just do it do it. I need you to call me. Right so my

[00:01:33] origin story so basically this will be the first time that I traveled alone as an adult

[00:01:40] because before that you know I traveled with my parents but like this was the first time traveling

[00:01:44] alone after I graduated West Point we had 90 days of free vacation so my friend and I decided we were

[00:01:51] gonna backpack through Europe that was like the cool thing to do and we had chosen Italy and England

[00:01:59] or UK as places to go so we took a Mack flight over like she handled all of this I couldn't

[00:02:05] even tell you how we did it but we went from like Dover Air Force Base to Naples Italy

[00:02:12] and that that flight was actually fine no no issues and Italy was I mean the island of Capri

[00:02:20] or Capri I don't know how to pronounce it. Capri. Yeah it was beautiful like amazing it was just

[00:02:27] amazing and then we went to Rome so this was where things got a little bit strange okay so

[00:02:36] we're tired it's like really flippin hot and we're sticky and you know we are trying to find this

[00:02:43] youth hostel and it was no GPS right so we're like we have like paper maps and we're like trying to

[00:02:48] navigate the streets of Rome um you would think we'd land navigation would be one of our strengths

[00:02:54] being in the army but you know whatever we find we didn't find the one we were looking for we

[00:02:59] found a different one we're like fine we're tired it's like 10 o'clock at night fuck this

[00:03:03] we're just gonna stay here um and so we do and they give us the you know the room we pay

[00:03:11] but it was like a room with like 12 bunk beds and I was like a hostel and it was a youth hostel

[00:03:19] yeah room with 12 bunk beds it's co-ed and I was like this is okay whatever it's pointing all over again

[00:03:27] I know and so the only bunks available were like the top bunks so we drop our stuff

[00:03:32] and we're like we just feel nasty we're gonna go shower um and so like everything was co-ed but

[00:03:37] thankfully the showers at least had some privacy um so we we feeling better we come back um trying

[00:03:43] to and then I was going to like put on a tank top and then I can't find it like I'm searching my

[00:03:49] backpack I mean I had literally like had been there that morning it wasn't there well turns

[00:03:54] out we found out later that those assholes had already rifled through our bags because

[00:04:00] that being the naive cadets we oh no graduates we had left our shit unsecured and just went to the

[00:04:06] bathroom like we're like nobody will a cadet does not will not buy and cheat or steal or tolerate

[00:04:14] those who do and so we just assumed like the rest of the world operated with this honor code

[00:04:20] and they don't so that shit was gone they had taken two of my tank tops two of my French

[00:04:25] shirts and a credit card from each so of course I did find out about the credit card until I called

[00:04:31] home and my parents are like yeah they called and because it's like the 90s there you know that

[00:04:38] there's no instant notification of anything it wasn't until like the last night that

[00:04:46] it was things got shitty so there's all there's like 12 people in the room it's dark

[00:04:55] everyone's wait did you not talk to any of these people beforehand like did you introduce yourself

[00:05:00] or well no but where were they from where were they all from I don't flip it no it's a good

[00:05:05] point like um that's a good point I don't actually know because I only remember the French Canadian

[00:05:11] guy this is this guy was like six feet tall big ass dude and that's the one that was sleeping on the

[00:05:17] bottom bunk and it's the only guy I remember is he was he the one that was sleeping was he sleeping

[00:05:23] like directly under you or yeah how does that work okay underneath me so okay shock that is

[00:05:29] men and women and it was no hanky-tanky well there were was there were people doing things

[00:05:36] I really like making out or whatever but I didn't ever see anyone like screwing um so that was yeah

[00:05:43] but the the last night like I'm trying to sleep lights are out and then the bunk starts like moving

[00:05:52] like it's like rocking and yes like what is wrong because it goes on for like several minutes

[00:06:00] and I'm like can this guy just not get comfortable like because I felt like he was like

[00:06:03] crossing and turning is he just not able to go to sleep and so like finally I like peek over

[00:06:12] and I was like this guy was completely butt ass naked with his dick in his hand

[00:06:19] just going to town on himself like yeah and I was like

[00:06:24] like right now like who I am today is not who I was wait was he drunk

[00:06:32] okay wait a minute I didn't fucking have to talk to him I mean he was naked with 11 other people

[00:06:38] in this room yes yes he just didn't he just didn't give a shit no I mean I just knew he had a need

[00:06:45] and he was gonna he was gonna fill us that night assumed everybody was asleep

[00:06:49] and he's not yeah and it was a big guy well I mean I'm not gonna lie and so I was like terrified

[00:06:56] because I didn't want him to know that I was awake I mean I'm granted no kidding

[00:07:01] it's probably why he did it Benef because of what you just said

[00:07:09] it was awful so it went on and I was just like I don't want to move

[00:07:14] and then finally he stopped went to the bathroom I'm like thank you

[00:07:18] well he had to go to the bathroom to clean up you know

[00:07:22] this is over right now I'm giving you the man version I'm giving you the

[00:07:25] okay well thank you so then he he came back and I'm like okay finally I could sleep

[00:07:31] but that that motherfucker started up again whoa what the hell places do you go Ben

[00:07:41] now well this is why you like to travel no no this is how you don't be so damn naive

[00:07:48] and the West Point is coming out of freaking West Point oh my god okay all right double it back

[00:07:54] how old were you 21 and this was the first time you had ever traveled internationally

[00:08:00] other than outside of the military well I know I hadn't traveled in the military at all yet

[00:08:06] because I was just graduated so I had been to France before with my high school French

[00:08:11] class and we saw totally in the bubble protected but we did see the topless beaches you know people

[00:08:18] just everything hanging out okay but but yeah by yourself wow okay so welcome to the world

[00:08:27] oh my gosh we were like and I just I can't because like that never had even it's not like

[00:08:32] West pointers or saints or anything but I just hadn't ever experienced anything like that

[00:08:39] and so the next morning I mean and I can't do the French accent you'll probably have to do it

[00:08:44] because he was like how did you sleep oh so he was French he was French yeah French Canadian yes

[00:08:53] and I was like oh la la fine and then he goes I slept sound and I think he liked you Benette

[00:09:03] that's what it was and he wanted to show you his jewel so you can be surprised okay so wait

[00:09:10] so did you guys hang out afterwards and I don't have to get a drink of wine

[00:09:18] yes so we did like that we did so in Rome yeah we saw a lot of really cool things we went from

[00:09:25] Rome to Venice but I told my friend about we are not we are never staying at a youth hostel again

[00:09:31] we will stay in some place with a room that locks like we weren't going through that shit again

[00:09:37] well she slept with the whole thing I was the one that happened to be awake you know

[00:09:40] surprised you even traveled again after this I'm surprised you didn't even put any video together

[00:09:46] oh my god nobody did a video oh my god no but I mean so that like that so that was weird

[00:09:52] right I do imagine if tiktok was around back then oh god let's see this is why this is why

[00:09:58] I'm gonna postpone it for all the see it's like this did happen back then you know

[00:10:02] you know our kids today our kids don't think we ever did anything that's because we don't have it was

[00:10:08] snail mail that's why we don't have proof thank god thank god I don't like that ridiculous shit on

[00:10:16] social media destroy the episode okay we're kidding yeah like that was wow that's a hell of an origin

[00:10:24] story well other than that how so so what is your you know do's and don't tell this for your first

[00:10:33] experience of traveling well don't leave your stuff unsecure like come on now that was yeah that's

[00:10:38] like number one basic stuff um I mean I don't even know that you could trust people like that is

[00:10:45] because you were we had grown four years we'd been in the bubble of where we don't lock our

[00:10:53] doors and they have great so now I think but yeah so the key is then did you at least have a great

[00:11:01] first experience in Rome Rome was hot and sticky and dirty we were we felt better like Venice was

[00:11:11] better but once we finally got to England I felt like I could breathe because it wasn't as hot

[00:11:17] it was so hot so you went from hot to like rainy what year do I mean excuse me what time of the year

[00:11:23] did you go it was summer so it would have been June maybe that's a hell of an origin story

[00:11:30] hell of a I think the highlight is obviously you guys having the roommates in in the hostel

[00:11:36] kind of thing okay so Trisha can you uh one up what Benef just gave us a story

[00:11:44] didn't say it was probably not so but yeah we're gonna we're gonna try so mine

[00:11:53] is a little bit more innocent I really kind of fell in love with traveling and and I guess that

[00:11:58] kind of gave me a travel bug is I was an avid reader when I was younger and I I used to

[00:12:04] read two and three books a day believe it or not um I and sometimes I wouldn't sleep because I

[00:12:09] would read all the time I was an only child so books tv television all those wonderful things were

[00:12:15] kind of my babysitter I was latchkey kid so I was alone a lot so yeah I did a lot of a lot of

[00:12:22] reading so I always disappeared and and you know travel was in books um and I got to bring my

[00:12:29] traveling to life um and this is why my favorite aunt in the whole world my we used to call her

[00:12:37] it's my aunt Alma but we for her nickname was Aunt Mita you know we always used to call her Aunt

[00:12:42] Mita she was a school teacher um in Belize that's where my family's from and um she uh it was actually

[00:12:51] my first trip uh to Belize um I was about 12 years old and and and I've traveled I traveled

[00:12:59] previous to this because I actually lived in Belize for four years when I was smaller

[00:13:03] actually lived with with her I lived almost three years um in Belize when my parents got divorced

[00:13:09] my mom was getting uh re like set up again uh as a single mom and so I lived actually in Belize

[00:13:16] with my great-grandmother for almost three years I had gone she actually took us on a

[00:13:22] backpacking trip if you will um to Mexico um so Belize where Belize is located

[00:13:30] um it's very close to Mexico and it's and so I mean it's orders Mexico right so

[00:13:36] we took a trip from Belize um we took actually took a coach bus believe it or not and we had

[00:13:42] backpacks and we took a a bus from Belize city is where my family is and we took it up

[00:13:49] through Chetamal and we actually went into Cancun oh nice and and so and this was yes

[00:13:56] and this is like this is like new new Cancun this is like unspoiled Cancun not the touristy thing

[00:14:02] that you see here today what year is this by the way I'm sorry what year oh gosh this must have been

[00:14:07] 1980 oh lord 86 oh wow um yeah this is early this is early early times right so um uh so when

[00:14:22] we went to Cancun we stayed uh we stayed in Cancun I guess maybe for a week which is unheard of when

[00:14:29] you think about it um back then because it was myself my cousin Stephanie she was also from New York

[00:14:36] um and she was a little bit older um I was the youngest um and then my twin cousins Jules and

[00:14:43] Julia and Jill and so it was four girls and my aunt Mita and if you knew her she was a small

[00:14:48] stature but she was everything to me I loved her um and she always used to wear these um

[00:14:55] why I love clogs to this day is because she always wore clogs and she had the original

[00:15:01] which was wood he had the original clogs and they were they were like this high because

[00:15:07] she was so short and so and it was so great because um it was like my first pair of heels

[00:15:12] I ever wore because she used to give us turns in her heels around the living room so yeah just

[00:15:18] really sweet memories I have of that but anyway um when we were in Chetamal we we stayed overnight

[00:15:24] before we went to straight on to Cancun um and that borders Belize and I remember the night

[00:15:29] we stayed overnight because the bus was actually not going to be going to Cancun into the next

[00:15:33] day so we had to stay in Chetamal that night the only thing that my uh my aunt could afford

[00:15:39] for us to stay in is we stayed in a room that did not have a uh it did had no windows

[00:15:47] oh all it had it was an inner room and it had the opening because it was a cement building

[00:15:52] so all it had were the slits for the you know for the hallway so it was it was open

[00:15:59] but the door was locked but it had no actual windows and it just had the beds around the room

[00:16:05] and I shared a shared a bed with my my other cousin so that's where we left overnight

[00:16:11] but here's the here's the here's a really cool thing when you walked out of the hotel you

[00:16:16] could go upstairs to the roof and you had the whole world because there was all these stars

[00:16:22] it was such a cool thing I that is cool especially at the age what was your age yeah

[00:16:28] what was that you said that was 12 yeah I was 11 12 at the time so it was the coolest thing so yeah

[00:16:35] so that was the that was also the summer that I learned to swim um it was really cool um and

[00:16:43] and we stayed at a hotel and then we ended up staying uh a night uh in is uh Isla Mojarras which

[00:16:50] is you know the island that's just off of Cancun there and at the time it was unspoiled

[00:16:55] is untouched now it's littered with hotels but the only thing that was on that island more

[00:17:01] nature and stuff like this yes just completely nature reserve it was nothing but sand dunes

[00:17:06] it was clear the straight beach and just clear clear clear clear water the only hotel was the

[00:17:13] El Presidente that's it nothing else and you could see straight down in the water uh just walk

[00:17:19] out to the beach so Christine Cancun that's what that was my very first trip and from then on I've

[00:17:26] had Wunderlust to travel that is that has been especially doing it like to believe now like

[00:17:32] re done that yes I have and believe it or not that was not my last trip because if I remember

[00:17:37] correctly that was the same year also um we went that I believe that trip she also treated us

[00:17:45] to um a week uh there's a uh it used to be an island it's not anymore in Belize because now there's

[00:17:52] a bridge that you that you can reach to it but uh they've now since excuse me built a bridge but

[00:17:58] you you used to have to go over in a boat um in Belize you call it a dory because a dory is a small

[00:18:03] boat and luggage everything you used to have to go in this thing and so it was four of us our

[00:18:08] luggage we went to Placencia is what it's called um Placencia Belize and you could walk

[00:18:13] the island in 20 minutes and again untouched now it's it's built up a little bit more but it only had one

[00:18:20] it only had one uh restaurant and it was called Jackie's and Jackie used to especially make burgers

[00:18:27] for us because she knew that we were um we were American yeah so she used to make she used to make

[00:18:32] burgers for us and um my aunt had a friend uh she because remember she taught at the school

[00:18:38] and so there was an american friend that had a house out there and that's where we stayed

[00:18:42] for the week we stayed at a beach house and it was right on the water and you can just walk right

[00:18:47] out there and we swam that sounds amazing yeah and there was a rastafarian that lived on the beach

[00:18:52] that was right there and he used to talk to us and hang out with us on the beach when i tell you

[00:18:57] we swam from sun up till sundown on that beach that was the first time that i realized that

[00:19:02] black people could get a sunburn uh uh yeah we got the melon yeah we melancholy and and

[00:19:10] that was the actually and i do remember this too that was the first that was actually the

[00:19:14] summer that i read mommy dearest oh god nice nice but yeah that was that was my first

[00:19:23] nice no that's that's awesome and in the fact of matter you were able to do it when you were

[00:19:28] young so let me tell you my origin a little bit um is nowhere near as benefs but i'm gonna give

[00:19:36] it a shot but my first uh travel alone would be when i was working in the government or when i was in

[00:19:44] an officer in the military and i was stationed in in germany and i decided to you know i knew

[00:19:52] i wanted to go somewhere and then a friend of mine who was also stationed with me we decided to

[00:19:58] go running with the bulls and if you guys don't know running with the bulls you know

[00:20:02] in pump alone in spain yeah wow and i never did it before i don't know what made me say yes to it

[00:20:09] but i was dangerous it's an but i didn't know i just remember seeing it one time on on esk and a

[00:20:16] whole bunch of bulls running i didn't know what to expect but it was probably one of the most

[00:20:22] fascinating exciting trips i've ever done because clearly i i end up continuing to do it because

[00:20:29] i did it three more times after that so you actually ran like you were in i actually ran

[00:20:36] i'm saying something about yeah yeah if you're gonna do it isn't it scary though like it is but

[00:20:42] i was not an idiot where i'm going very close to the bulls and if if the bulls are coming you

[00:20:47] can jump on to like you know people's buildings i've seen people trying to climb to get out of

[00:20:53] the way just climb out of the way but i would also be worried about being trampled by other

[00:20:58] people though that's the stupid people that don't want to move out of the bulls way because the bull

[00:21:02] don't want to hurt you they just want to run after the cows into the you know wherever they're

[00:21:08] running to and that's it and it's i know somebody that's you know probably you know pita related

[00:21:16] is probably gonna hate me for this but i loved it and i went running with the bulls but the

[00:21:21] fascinating part about it was you know when i got there clearly when i first got there the number

[00:21:27] one thing was when we get there we need to go do what the spanish people do what was that uh

[00:21:33] sangria and i wanted to see because what made running with the bulls famous was a her Ernest

[00:21:39] Hemingway novel and he used to go out there all the time too as well so that fascinated me and

[00:21:45] i was just like okay whatever let's do that let's do have some sangria before the bull run you

[00:21:52] do like a festival called san for men and what that is is you're just having a big old community

[00:21:59] food fight with ketchup main aids mustard and flour and you're literally just throwing it on

[00:22:07] each other don't ask me why we did it it was just the most exciting and bizarre thing but here's

[00:22:13] where it took a turn because the next day was running with the bulls and you have to dress up

[00:22:18] in the all white with the red and stuff like that like you see everybody and what happened was you

[00:22:24] know of course you got to take photos and you want to take photos of this and stuff like this and i

[00:22:28] ended you know was taking photos clearly i don't speak spanish the way they you know and i was

[00:22:36] told that you're not supposed to take photos of the bulls because the flash or whatever might

[00:22:42] cause them a reaction or something like this yeah stupid american of me taking photos because i'm like

[00:22:49] why would i miss this you know and fyi denis rodman was uh actually there i saw him running with

[00:22:58] the bulls like i was not too far from where he was okay and i just thought it was hilarious

[00:23:04] right right i thought it was hilarious so i was sitting there i was taking photos and so on me and

[00:23:09] my friend and then i we ended up meeting some other cool people who were actually from canada too as

[00:23:14] well but from vancouver and something about canadians and you know and to this day i'm still friends

[00:23:25] with with this with this with this person his stuff like this too as well but the where the

[00:23:30] story gets interesting is that while i was taking photos me you know the canadian and i think it

[00:23:37] was an australian or something like this and my friend we're taking photos and then all of a sudden

[00:23:42] this the cops came and the cops came and grabbed us and took us away and like literally when i say

[00:23:51] grab where you talking about like they grabbed us and just like yank yanked us away and threw us

[00:23:58] in the paddy wagon so i got arrested oh my gosh you got arrested i got a picture taking a photo

[00:24:07] taking photos with with we didn't know that that's the reason why we got arrested at first because

[00:24:12] denis rodman no no no me and and my friends that i was with and i'm just saying we were taking

[00:24:18] photos before you got arrested before clarification that was for clarification no no no no yep

[00:24:23] that's fine and and i got arrested and it was right before the bull run was going to happen and

[00:24:28] and mind you i was just like okay what the hell's going on they confiscated my camera and everything

[00:24:33] like this and then next thing you know we got to the police station the bull run is supposed

[00:24:38] to happen like in an hour and a half or something like this we got arrested prior to that and we

[00:24:45] got to the to the police station and i just remembered there was other like people there

[00:24:51] that got arrested that were also you know tourists and stuff like this and they were trying to figure

[00:24:56] out why and they were talking Spanish to us and all this other stuff and they're about to tell us

[00:25:02] you know charges and put us in jail and i was like scared because i'm like okay this doesn't look

[00:25:06] good as a government employee and i'm gonna get like so you know in trouble right now and then

[00:25:14] what like all of a sudden all of our stuff was on the table and then you know the cops were

[00:25:19] just talking to some other people doing whatever they're doing and then these Aussies i just remember

[00:25:25] they were like i'm not staying here mate you know i'm taking my shit and then all of a sudden we saw

[00:25:31] them just sneaking away and taking their shit and then just hauled ass so i looked at my friend

[00:25:39] and we looked at each other and i'm just like i just grabbed my shit and then i just hauled ass

[00:25:45] and i just because we just ran oh my god out of there like like so basically i feel like i'm a

[00:25:52] fugitive in spain i i don't know if i should say this but this was years ago i got you on the

[00:25:58] wallet list we literally took our shit and we just hauled ass and ran and the moral of the

[00:26:04] story is this is that basically in pomp lona and i'm gonna say this because i was pissed that

[00:26:10] they they arrested us and the reason why is because they're i felt like they were taking advantage of

[00:26:15] tourists that's what it sounds like yes they wanted because all in order for us to get our stuff we

[00:26:21] have to pay to get our camera back and good and stuff like this and that's why i followed the

[00:26:30] same decision that the australians uh that was in front of us then where first of all they were

[00:26:36] stupid to put all of the evidence on a table second thing they were doing was they were stupid

[00:26:42] conversating with everybody else and not looking at everybody that they arrested no not even it yeah

[00:26:47] first of all makes you think that yeah it was just them trying to get you guys exactly thinking

[00:26:53] i was like working to leave because were there any signs that said don't take photos or anything

[00:26:57] like maybe but i don't remember seeing it they said that there were but i just don't remember

[00:27:04] seeing it because you gotta remember the city of pomp lona it's packed it's packed and it's

[00:27:09] really packed and people sleeping out on the streets yeah so you're not gonna really see that

[00:27:15] and then people are wasted so who's yeah seeing signs that says whatever and you're wasted and

[00:27:22] all this other stuff um but i just you might still be in that spanish jail shoot right and

[00:27:28] i was like first of all you didn't put us in a jail you just took us to the police station and

[00:27:36] you know what you didn't expect somebody gonna run if you didn't put me in a jail so maybe they did

[00:27:42] it out they probably that's why i said you're a little story they were smart yeah they wanted

[00:27:48] money is what it is and they would have gotten it because tourists were paying it because i saw

[00:27:54] people paying in order to get their shit back so all biting citizens were paying not when i tell you

[00:28:02] when i tell you my track skills came into play because i hauled as away from my friend

[00:28:08] i don't know where we were running to but we were running that scholarship came in handy oh my god

[00:28:15] i was running my ass up and then call run the minute like thank god we were able to get there

[00:28:22] just in time did you see the yeah that's what i was wondering if you had yes it was like 20 minutes

[00:28:30] before that's a heck of a story and we hauled ass and we were able to do it and voila everything is

[00:28:35] cool that is that ever since then i've been loving those type of event adventures and

[00:28:42] that's why i'm going to yeah for sure and stuff so there you have it spanish or spain don't

[00:28:51] look that was back in 2003 or four so i think there's a statue of limitation on it so

[00:29:01] i would imagine you're okay i'm sure no but hey look these stories you know these are just one

[00:29:08] of many stories that we probably have and eventually one of the things that that we would

[00:29:14] like to do is to be able to share some of these and you know obviously some do's and don'ts with

[00:29:19] these stories or or or whatnot that will help out with folks that's doing it i know with mine

[00:29:24] i will definitely tell people if you've never run with the bulls before highly recommend it i

[00:29:31] honestly truly do because it was such an adrenaline rush that i wish that i can continuously keep

[00:29:37] doing it but i got a back issue i can't do that shit anymore i ain't gonna recommend no one to do

[00:29:43] do what you're not gonna recommend the hospital but but do keep track of your

[00:29:48] shit that's for sure don't leave your stuff on to care but i mean it would be fun to hear some of

[00:29:53] the the listeners stories because we can't be the only people that have crazy ass stories

[00:29:57] no so anyone who's listening yeah stories like mine really cute story

[00:30:03] anyone who's listening out there right now sentimental stories yes please send us your

[00:30:09] recording or send us your comments on your stories and we would love to be able to even

[00:30:15] share them on the on the site and stuff like this too as well but um just to wrap it up a little

[00:30:21] bit again i thank you guys for listening thanks uh benef and trisha for sharing your

[00:30:27] wonderful stories and i hope you guys enjoyed this episode of our rhythm in rome podcast and i

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